Bungi Bill

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  Born in, Convert or 1975er?

  by Think About It in

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  does a person's involvement in the jw religion usually fall into one of these 3 categories?.

  a) born in.

  b) convert.

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  Bungi Bill

  None of those three categories describes my background.

  I would class myself as "raised in" rather than "born in", given that my parents weren't JWs when I was born. In fact, they never did become JWs: - I was introduced to it at eleven years of age, by a grandmother who had commenced a "Bible Study" with the witnesses several years before.

  Furthermore, the term "convert" is hardly relevant in my case, as I was not a church member prior to my involvement with the witnesses.

  Also, my grandmother began "studying" with the JWs about the same time as the All Scriptures Inspired book was released, which specifically warned against any speculation regarding the 6000th anniversary of human creation. I don't therefore class myself as a 1975er, either.

  Sorry to disagree!

  Bill.
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  We're on the eve of Destruction!

  by PYRAMIDSCHEME in

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  it's all over tommorow!

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exh7h9lk5hy .

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  7:30 ESDT on 22 December down in this part of the world, and everything so far looks much the same as it did yesterday.

  So much so, that I might even take a peek outside the bomb shelter that we built in anticipation of this event!

  Bill.
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  Dec.21st and the countdown to the Mayan Apocalypse

  by designs in

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  december 21 marks the winter solstice and the end of a cycle called the 13th b'ak'tun.. 1.will we see a few who want to join the celestial parade ala those who wanted to hop on a comet a few years ago.. 2.should koolaid and vodka be banned dec. 20th.. 3.will the wt.

  come out with an article making fun of those who 'falsely predict the end of the world' .

  i'll take bets on #3.

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  Bungi Bill

  This side of the International Dateline, it is already well into the morning of Saturday, 22 December:

  -which has so far passed without incident!

  Bill.
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  Which of the 5 weekly meetings did you hate the most?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  it was always stressed that the five weekly meetings were like the fingers on your hand.

  each one was just as important as the next.

  which of the meetings were the most boring,bothersome and difficult to listen to?

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  Bungi Bill

  That's simple:

  -the whole bloody lot!

  Bill.
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  1AM UK 21.12.2012... world not ended here

  by BroMac in

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  err well unless i'm the only one left .

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  Bungi Bill

  JV

  This side of the International Dateline, nothing much has changed (yet!) that I can see:

  - and we are already now well into the morning of Saturday, 22 December.

  I am writing this, of course, from deep down inside the bomb shelter that we built just in case the Mayans had it right!

  Bill.
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  A Nut or Criminals Will Always Find A Way To Kill Or Hurt Someone If They Want To

  by minimus in

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  for the record, i don't think a person should be able to use "assault weapons" or "machine guns" or "rocket launchers".

  i do think guns should be allowed.

  but certainly not everyone is "qualified" to use a firearm.. even if you legally, rightfully can have a weapon, it doesn't mean that a "kook" wouldn't steal it and use it in a nefarious way.. i am convinced that you could take licenses away from drinkers and they still could get behind the wheel and wreak havoc.. you could ban switchblades and gun silencers and people will still find a way to quickly slice you up or muffle a sound.. you could ban or try to curtail cough medicines and people will still find a way to get high.. we cannot, government cannot---control what people will do.

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  Bungi Bill

  bohm,

  Nugget does make a valid point, to quote "However, what you can do is make it harder for them to cause harm." (In the same manner , if a burglar really wants to get into your house, he will - no matter what you do. That fact, though, does not mean we despairingly throw our hands up in the air and leave our homes unlocked. We can and do implement measures to make it harder for a would be thief - even if it only serves to make him move on to easier pickings!)

  There will always be violence, guns or no guns. However, the contribution firearms have made has been to make violence more deadly - which is why they were introduced in the first place. (The destruction one person armed with an AK-47 is capable of carrying out is out of all proportion to what that same individual could do if he were armed with nothing more than a chunk of rock or a length of timber!)

  We can, though - as nugget says - make it harder for disturbed individuals to get hold of a firearm;

  -such measures as requiring guns to be kept locked in secure containers, or vetting of firearms owners for mental instability, criminal records etc. (Down in this part of the world, that is what we have to do -and speaking for myself, a licensed firearm owner, I have never had a problem with that).

  Bill.
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  Why Isn't the USA the Safest Country in the World With All the Guns

  by RubaDub in

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  we have 9 guns for every 10 people in this country.

  since more guns = better protection, i keep asking myself why there is so much gun violence here ???.

  i don't see such violence in canada, australia, europe, japan and other so-called "advanced" countries.. what is wrong with us here.

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  Bungi Bill

  The map displayed by jgnat (Post 18632), showing the rate of firearm caused homocides by country is interesting.

  One of the countries with the highest rates of firearm caused homocides is Papua New Guinea (which comes as no surprise to anybody who has lived there, as I have!)

  You talk about gun control, in PNG it is extremely difficult to legally own a firearm. Their gun control laws are amongst the most stringent in the world. Yet, as the statistics confirm - and anybody who has lived there would know - it has one of the highest rates of firearms related deaths in the world.

  In that country, the "raskols" (i.e. The Pidgin term for criminals) have little difficulty getting their hands on firearms:

  - they either make themselves a dangerous but effective 12 gauge shotgun out of a length of 0.75 inch waterpipe, and using as a firing mechanism a piece of bicycle tube propelling a coomercially made bolt.

  - otherwise, an M-16 assault rifle or an older FN-100 self loading rifle is not too difficult to acquire from a corrupt police officer (which is most of them) or a cash-hungry soldier in the Defence Force.

  Proof, if it were needed, that harsher gun control laws in themselves are not guaranteed to improve matters.

  My experience, anyway,

  Bill.
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  Do you miss "dressing up" for the meetings?

  by dozy in

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  i was thinking about this the other day when doing a bit of tidying up of my wardrobe.

  all the kh suits are now pushed to the back of the wardrobe and i am seriously thinking about a visit to the charity shop to get rid of most of them.. for me one of the (few) enjoyable aspects of being a jw was getting dressed up.

  my secular work very rarely involves putting on a dress suit & tie so i miss getting dressed up - smart suit , tie , shiny shoes , slapping on the aftershave.

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  In a word, no.

  Having lived much of my life in the tropics, the JW's dress code was utterly inappropriate, having been set by fashions in an entirely different climate zone. As viewed by the community in general, anybody strutting around in a suit, long sleeved shirt and tie in that heat was just an idiot - make that a bloody idiot!

  I am happy to say that since breaking with The Cancer nearly 20 years ago, I have hardly ever worn a tie since.

  Bill.
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  1975 Proves that the Watchtower is deliberately EVIL!!!

  by NoRegrets in

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  Bungi Bill

  Steve2,

  I tend to agree that this deluded bloody fool (F.W. Franz) probably did believe his own propaganda.

  Bill.
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  DJEGGNOG, What Is Your View On The Slave's New Teachings?

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  dear djegg, with your wisdom and insights into the watchtower theology, do you agree with their new "faithful slave" teaching?

  you have not posted for a while, can you share your insights please?

  i ask djegg because very few know jw theology the way he/she knows their doctrines and dogmas.

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  Bungi Bill

  DJDamnFool was still about four days ago, when he / she had a few words to say about a favorite subject. (Read - contributed an explosion of verbal diarrhea to a post about "Analysis of 607 BCe Rebuttals."

  Bill.